Security :: Migrating Classic ASP Authentication & Authorization To Membership
Apr 28, 2010
I have an old website running fine in Classic ASP with large customer base registered onto the site. The current site allows users to have their own user name(unique) registered against an ID assigned to them. They can change the User name later as well provided it is still Unique in the database(Database is SQLServer2005).
The Problem: Now i want to move the website to .NET and want to use the .NET Membership. I know how to create the database structure in SQL Server through aspnet_regsql script but my problem is how should i import the existing username and passwords as the password stored in MembershipDB is Hashed (salt). Also i might want to allow admins to impersonate as users later.
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Jan 23, 2010
I am writing two ASP.NET apps. One is a web service that provides xml data and the other is a web client that will use the service to display and manipulate data. I would like for the web service to do the membership authentication and authorization. Is there any way to simply point the login controls in my client application to the web service instead of to a database. I assume I would have to provide the necesarry methods in my web service interface, which would then use the membership provider database I created and pass the results back through to the client.
Is this possible? I have seen many articles on security provisioin from a web service but none has really been what I am looking for. I was hoping that, since my service and my client are both written in ASP.NET, there might be some built functionality that would benefit me.
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Sep 21, 2010
I have an existing ASPNET role/membership database created on SQLExpress 2005 (WIndows 2003 Server). I created it under the .NET 3 framework many years ago using the aspnet_regsql.exe application in full GUI mode.
I am setting up a new Windows 2008R2 server with .Net Framework 4 and SQL Server 2008R2. I don't want users to have to recreate accounts or create roles, etc.
So...
1. Should I backup the current database and import it into the new system, and if so do I even need to use the aspnet_regsql.exe application. (If so which version do I use, different aspnet_regsql.exe files exist in different directories (i.e., FrameWork, FrameWork64)
2. Should I just run aspnet_regsql.exe on its own and then somehow try to import the current data into those tables.
I am concerned that if I just import somehow the roles within SQL server will not be created properly.
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Nov 12, 2010
We have just migrated our application from VS 2008 to VS 2010 and our database from Sql server 2005 to 2008. Everything was working great until i tried to login to the site.
As when i try to log into the site, i am surprisingly always getting "FALSE" from Membership.Validateuser (). I goggled it and now i know i am not the alone victim of this irritating bug. Our live site is going to be down...
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Apr 21, 2010
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Dec 4, 2010
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Jun 1, 2010
We are in design phase of a project whose goal is replatforming an ASP classic application to ASP.Net 4.0. The system needs to be entirely web based. There are several new requirements for the new system that make this a challenging project:
The system needs to be database independent. It must, at version 1.0, support MS SQL Server, Oracle, MySQL, Postgres and DB2. The system must be able to allow easy reporting from the database by third party reporting packages. The system must allow an administrative end user to create their own tables in the database through the web based interface. The system must allow an administrative end user to design/configure a user interface (web based) where they can select tables and fields in the system (either our system's core tables or their own custom tables created in #3) The system must allow an administrative end user to create and maintain relationships between these custom created tables, and also between these tables and our system's core tables. The system must allow an administrative end user to create business rules that will enforce validation, show/hide UI elements, block certain actions based on the identity of specific users, specific user groups or privileges.
Essentially it's a system that has some core ticket tracking functionality, but allows the end user to extend the interface, business rules and the database. Is this possible to build in a .Net, Web based environment? If so, what do you think the level of effort would be to get this done? We are currently a 6 person shop, with 2.5 full time developers.
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Nov 12, 2010
Searching for out of box authenitcation tool/component that authenticates against Active Directory for Classic ASP AND legacy .NET 1.1 applications.
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May 18, 2010
I'm using Forms authentication in ASP.NET MVC website and I store user account login name in AuthCookie like this: FormsAuthentication.SetAuthCookie(account.Login, false); I want to ask if there is a possibility that user on client side will somehow manage to change his login name in AuthCookie and thus he will be for example impersonated as someone with higher privileges and authorized to do more actions than he is normally supposed to have. Also is it better to save in this cookie user account login name or user account ID number?
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Feb 16, 2010
I'm using Visual studio 2005 with C# on .NET framework 2.0.. I am implementing forms authentication in this project but the problem is when I'm on registration form ( outside login) and try to open any window on that form using java script (window. open) it redirects me to login page. How should i tackle this problem??
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Jan 16, 2010
I have a client asp.net website that uses ASP.Net Membership, Roles and Profile providers and Login controls. I need to expand the application so was going to use WCF Workflows, the ASP.Net website will be hosted on a different server than the WCF Services so what I want to do is get the ASP.Net Website to auth via the WCF Service. So process will go:
ASP.Net Website ------------------> WCF Service ------------------> SQL Database (Membership, Roles, Profile, Workflow Persistence Data and Business Data)
I tried creating a custom Membership and Role providers but I have had problems managing the users (Membershipuser class) saying null when a vaild user has been return by the WCF Service as can access the properies but not the methods.
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Jan 30, 2010
i need clear expition for authentication and authorization in .net
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Jan 27, 2011
I am using asp.net authentication and authorization with form authentication for my web application.
When I create a new user using asp.net create user control,the newly create user automatically gets logged in,the already logged users looses his session.
Don't know why this is happening.Is there some setting for this?
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Jul 8, 2010
I have a web application that requires two separate authentication and authorization.
In the root webconfig i configure the security for authenticating and authorizing public users
I also need authentication and authorization for the back end. That is the administrator who will manage the web application.
For this i have a subdirectory "admin" that will contain all the functionality for the back end. In the "admin" subdirectory i have a second web.config and i tried to add all the security for the administrator but it does not let me
Is it possible to have to separate authorization and authentication for a single web application. All the details will be save in microsoft's sql tables generate (for example aspnet... tables)
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Feb 21, 2010
I've just started a small ASP.NET web application. In this project, I need to authenticate the users with Active Driectory. I managed to authenticate the users successfully with Active Directory. But with Authorization with Custom Role Provider, I'm so confused.You see, the user name and password are stored in AD. So, my approach is that after the LoggedIn event of the Login Control, I check if UserName is not yet stored in the Users table yet, then I will store the UserName there. Eventually, I have all the UserName of the AD users store in the Users table so I can assign Roles to the users.
Let's say I assigned UserA to RoleOne. After he logs in successfully, I do some query to look for his Roles.
Where do I keep the Role ticket? In the Cookie or in the session? How does the authorization of ASP.NET role provider work? I want to store the authentication ticket like ASP.NET role prover does too.
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Aug 26, 2010
In my asp.net website in VS-2005 with SQL-Server 2005 as db, I need to implement role-based Authentication/Authorization.
I am familiar to the practises used in role-based authentication..as I have previously worked on projects that used this method. However, my project lead used to design the database. Now I have an existing website where authentication has been set to anonymous by setting 'allow users="?"' in the authentication tags in web.config.
If I use the createUserWizard control and use the Membership.creatUser(.....) method in code behind will the asp.net security tables, like users, roles, userinrole etc get created on its own?
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Oct 5, 2010
I am trying to implement a simple role based authorization using forms authentication in ASP.net. It works perfectly fine in my local system but fails when I deploy in production (shared hosting). Whenever I try to log in, rather than taking me to the default page in specified directory it throws me back to the login page. I suspect that there is some issues with the configuration but not sure where the problem is. The code is provided below:
Web.config (root):
[Code]....
Web.config (Member directory):
[Code]....
Login.aspx:
[Code]....
Global.asax:
[Code]....
Works fine in local machine but shared hosting is not taking the authenticated user to the pages inside the secured folders. What can be the issue?
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Mar 29, 2011
I am using ASP.NET MVC 3 and am trying to do something that should be really straight forward...
My application uses Forms authentication and that is working perfectly for controllers/actions. For example if I decorate either a controller or an action with the attribute below only members of the administrators group can view them:
[Authorize(Roles="Administrators")]
However I have a folder under the default Scripts folder called Admin. I only want members of the Administrators group to be able to access scripts within this directory so I created a new web.config in the directory with the following inside:
[code]....
However no matter whether a user is a member of the Administrators group or not they receive a 302 Found message and are then redirected to the login page.
If I change the web.config to allow user="*" then it works. It also works if I add an allow users="Username" for a specific user I am testing with.
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Sep 9, 2010
I had been trying to solve this but there is a hidden key i wish someone point me to.
I had a simple membership database with users in first the Membership Provider configured for clear password to retrieve the original password .
Now a new requirement say that the password must be hashed and reset .
I configure the Membership password to hash , and Implemented the Reset Password Module.
My problem is as follow.
If the user is new registered user with the new configuration the password and the security answer is hashed.
also when I go and reset the password it continue to be hashed.
Now I thought that with new configuration if any previous user with clear text configuration , If he use the password Reset module , because my configuration now is hashed , I expected that the new password and security answer will be hashed . what happen is old user continue in clear text even if the configuration is hashed. so If I had new users everything is fine.
old users Membership Provider somehow know they had been stored in clear text and it keep change password and security answer in clear text . If I delete this user and create it , Membership Provider understand that everything will be hashed. I need to know how it know this , I need to migrate users not to delete and recreate users .
Also if there are no solution for that , I wish Microsoft Consider it in future cause it is a real user scenario, that can happen imagine a business system that related to membership user Id , deleting users and recreate them is not a solution .
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Apr 21, 2010
I need to convert a web site using traditional ASP.Net login,membership/role with SQL to a custom system. I need to use a third party (CAS) authentication system while still using membership and roles to control access to content and User.Identity functions.What would be the best way to accomplish this? I use the <deny> and <allow> user throughout the site to control page access.
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Oct 31, 2010
Without reading the whole text below, since this is on the ASP.Net side ... basically I think I need to know if there is a way to reduce the size of the forms authentication cookie. When using a DotNet 2.0 website, the ASPXAUTH cookie is about 232 bytes ... when using the same source code but upgraded to DotNet 4.0. the cookie is approximately 264 bytes, setting the ticketCompatabilityMode does not reduce the size since I think the default setting is Framework20. I length of the cookie, including the its' name can not be larger than 256 bytes in order to use it with the "Client Application Services".
I only did a cursory search of the asp.net forums, but will dilligently look for an existing solution.
----- BACKGROUND AND RESEARCH -----
I have been using all three features of client application services (authentication, profiles, and roles) in my windows app (DotNet 3.5 framework) for almost two years now. Up until now, I have not had any problems. This week I hit a brick wall and am pretty stumped with two seperate but related issues.
Issues:
In development, we decided to upgrade our websites/services to DotNet 4.0. All applications upgraded successfully. However we are unable to log into our application using Client Application services. No matter what user we use, Membership.ValidateUser returns false. Since we know the username and passwords, we thought this was strange. When debugging the application, we found that Membership.ValidateUser was throwing an InvalidOperationException (see below for complete exception) stating that the ASPXAUTH property was too long, longer that the schema created in the SQL/CE database. (See below for things tried).
In production .. A user all of the sudden could no longer gain access to the application. Upon inspection, his ASPXAUTH cookie was 264 characters long (9 characters longer than the schemas nvarchar(256)). Even though the user was being authenticated on the "server side", and the JSON query returned "{"d":true}", Membership.ValidateUser returned false. Again, as in the case above, the actual error was ...
Message=@PropValue : String truncation: max=256, len=264 ...
I am assuming I am missing something very simple or that I overlooked a settings. In development, this is not a huge issue as I can release the Dotnet 4.0 websites when I am ready. But now that this has happened to a client on a production system, it is very worrisome.
[code]....
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May 3, 2010
I have implemented the .Net Membership provider with my website which is, for the most part, working well. However, occasionally a user will try and login and nothing will happen. There will be no error, they will just hit "Submit" from the login screen and continue to the homepage as an unauthenticated user. This behavior persists until they clear their web cache, or restart their machine... which makes me think it's some kind of cookie expiration error?
Does anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot this?
Here is the relevant section of my webconfig:
<membership defaultProvider="AspNetSqlMembershipProvider">
<providers>
<clear/>
<add name="AspNetSqlMembershipProvider" type="System.Web.Security.SqlMembershipProvider" connectionStringName="ASPWebAuthConnectionString" maxInvalidPasswordAttempts="10000000" enablePasswordRetrieval="false" enablePasswordReset="true" applicationName="nvpumps"
requiresUniqueEmail="false" minRequiredNonalphanumericCharacters="0" minRequiredPasswordLength="5" requiresQuestionAndAnswer="false"/>
</providers>
</membership>
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Sep 1, 2010
I am evaluating ASP.NET Membership for an intranet Silverlight app. I want users to be automatically authenticated for my application with their windows logon. Thus I configured Windows Authentication. I would like to store user settings like email-address in using the SqlMembershipProvider and not AD. It seems that storing user settings using the SqlMembershipProvider is not supported with Windows Authentication. Is this really so (using .NET 4)?
If so: What is the rationale behind this? IMHO authentication, user settings and authorization are distinct aspects. User settings could easily be stored (identified by user name) using the SqlMembershipProvider with authentication and password management being supplied by Windows. What is the recommended solution for my scenario?
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Mar 18, 2010
I just like to know how can i create my own authentication(calling the ASP .net membership, role) page with the same function as the LOGIN Control. Your wondering, why not use the Login control instead. I have my own design and i don't know how to pattern my design to the built in Login Control. I tried editing the login template, but it's pretty hard to pattern it to my design.
This is my design
Basically what would like to know how the Login Control calls for the authentication, and when authenticated, it will pass the user(full name) to my LoginView Control without any coding. Or is it possible that I remove default login button in the LOGIN Control then create my own button and trigger the authentication or validation? But if you have other suggestion that can follow my design and call the authentication, i would be happy to know.
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May 4, 2010
I'm developing a web application using EF4, POCO's, WCF Data Services and the presentation tier (HTML, CSS, JavaScript, Ajax - NO WebForms). For security I would like using ASP.NET Membership Provider (Authentication Service): from a *.htm file calling the AuthenticationService. I executed aspnet_regsql.exe (to create the necessary database tables) and modified my web.config file:
<configuration>
<system.web>
<roleManager enabled="true" />
[code]...
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